white feminists want us to watch frozen because it was created by a woman and has a white female lead (and white everything else) but wanted us to boycott pacific rim because it didnt pass the bechedel test, despite having a woman of color as a lead with a developed, fleshed out story and several other poc characters. shit’s buckwild
created by a *white woman
We should probably watch both then. Let’s watch both.
Wait, who the fuck said anything about boycotting Pacific Rim? Fuck that, a movie doesn’t have to pass the Bechedel test to have awesome female characters, especially when it has a badass WOC lead.
My issue with the Bechedel Test bashing is that there’s no reason Mako and Alexis couldn’t have exchanged lines. Just established a connection between the women. For a movie built on the different kinds of connections between people, it’s frustrating there isn’t a female one in the movie at all. So while it’s dumb to boycott it, there’s still a strong issue with isolating Mako.
100% agree with Beat here. Just because a movie has problems doesn’t mean it isn’t a good movie. But also, a movie being good DOES NOT EXCUSE it’s blatant problems, especially when they are problems of representation. I haven’t seen Frozen yet (obviously), but it seems worth seeing, and Pacific Rim was DEFINITELY worth seeing. That said, they both clearly have social issues that should be discussed, as we’ve said.
This is my favourite picture on Tumblr.
Yeah, because it’s the truth that no one is going to ask or scream for help. We’re going to stay silent and suffer.
Because those who do ask or scream for help are ostracized by being told their pain isn’t real or that they’re too needy.
the reason I’ve stopped saying “most men/some white people/many straight people do X oppressive activity” is because if you’re a member of those groups, I want you to sit there and think, “do I do X? am I a part of that? am I an active part of the problem?”
if I say that only most or some people in those groups participates in X, that’s letting you off the hook! that means that you’re not asked to think about your actions and choices!
and besides, even if you yourself aren’t doing X, chances are you know at least five people who do. and I want you to think about them too.
bronies make me so fucking angry
how dare you co-opt a show for little girls and make their fandom unsafe by pornifying and sexualising goddamn cartoon ponies when you’re the exact type of dudes to turn round and call some teenage girl an attention-seeking fake nerd slut for enjoying ‘male’ things like video games or comic books?
actually fucking die you disgusting perverted assholes
This is a jar full of major characters
Actually it is a jar full of chocolate covered raisins on top of a dirty TV tray. But pretend the raisins are interesting and well rounded fictional characters with significant roles in their stories.
We’re sharing these raisins at a party for Western Storytelling, so we get out two bowls.
Then we start filling the bowls. And at first we only fill the one on the left.
This doesn’t last forever though. Eventually we do start putting raisins in the bowl on the right. But for every raisin we put in the bowl on the right, we just keep adding to the bowl on the left.
And the thing about these bowls is, they don’t ever reset. We don’t get to empty them and start over. While we might lose some raisins to lost records or the stories becoming unpopular, but we never get to just restart. So even when we start putting raisins in the bowl on the right, we’re still way behind from the bowl on the left.
And time goes on and the bowl on the left gets raisins much faster than the bowl on the right.
Until these are the bowls.
Now you get to move and distribute more raisins. You can add raisins or take away raisins entirely, or you can move them from one bowl to the other.
This is the bowl on the left. I might have changed the number of raisins from one picture to the next. Can you tell me, did I add or remove raisins? How many? Did I leave the number the same?
You can’t tell for certain, can you? Adding or removing a raisin over here doesn’t seem to make much of a change to this bowl.
This is the bowl on the right. I might have changed the number of raisins from one picture to the next. Can you tell me, did I add or remove raisins? How many? Did I leave the number the same?
When there are so few raisins to start, any change made is really easy to spot, and makes a really significant difference.
This is why it is bad, even despicable, to take a character who was originally a character of color and make them white. But why it can be positive to take a character who was originally white and make them a character of color.
The white characters bowl is already so full that any change in number is almost meaningless (and is bound to be undone in mere minutes anyway, with the amount of new story creation going on), while the characters of color bowl changes hugely with each addition or subtraction, and any subtraction is a major loss.
This is also something to take in consideration when creating new characters. When you create a white character you have already, by the context of the larger culture, created a character with at least one feature that is not going to make a difference to the narratives at large. But every time you create a new character of color, you are changing something in our world.
I mean, imagine your party guests arrive
Oh my god they are adorable!
And they see their bowls
But before you hand them out you look right into the little black girls’s eyes and take two of her seven raisins and put them in the little white girl’s bowl.
I think she’d be totally justified in crying or leaving and yelling at you. Because how could you do that to a little girl? You were already giving the white girl so much more, and her so little, why would you do that? How could you justify yourself?
But on the other hand if you took two raisins from the white girl’s bowl and moved them over to the black girl’s bowl and the white girl looked at her bowl still full to the brim and decided your moving those raisins was unfair and she stomped and cried and yelled, well then she is a spoiled and entitled brat.
And if you are adding new raisins, it seems more important to add them to the bowl on the right. I mean, even if we added the both bowls at the same speed from now on (and we don’t) it would still take a long time before the numbers got big enough to make the difference we’ve already established insignificant.
And that’s the difference between whitewashing POC characters and making previously white characters POC. And that’s why every time a character’s race is ambiguous and we make them white, we’ve lost an opportunity.
*goes off to eat her chocolate covered raisins, which are no longer metaphors just snacks*
Why not apply this sort of logic to something slightly more substantive? There are a lot of poor, starving people in the world, so why don’t we start killing well-off white people and redistributing their food and other resources to the more impoverished.
Sounds about right on paper, don’t you think? There are so many well off white people that just looking at a picture of them all, you couldn’t possibly notice the difference before and after. But looking at the same before and after picture of well off people of color could really make a difference. And really, isn’t it worth it to sacrifice a few white people to make things more equal?
People aren’t chocolate-covered raisins, they aren’t interchangeable, they all have unique value. White people are disproportionately wealthy compared to people of color. But correcting this forcibly for the sake of fairness, isn’t fair at all. All it does is satisfy some guilty or selfish notion of immediate satisfaction.
Actual equality is hard, it takes time and it takes opportunity and it takes a lot of drive and determination. Taking a shortcut just undervalues its worth.
Stories and the characters within them are the same, they’re all unique and all possessing of value. It might be easy to say they need to be changed for the sake of fairness, particularly since unlike actual people they can’t object for themselves. But it isn’t actually fair, and it isn’t actually an intelligent solution to a problem. All it does is cauterize the wound, it’s a simple solution for someone without the ability to do any better, and in the end it is far more painful than it needed to be and leaves a terrible scar.
Make new characters. Make new versions of interpretable characters. Make new stories. Stop trying to take the easy way out and do it the right way. It might be hard, but it is worth it.
OMG look at this person seeing a post about being more inclusive and proportionate in media representation and asking “How is that different from MURDERING WHITE PEOPLE”?
Check yourself, buddy. (And the comparison in your metaphor wouldn’t be raisins to people anyway. You are terrible at analogies. The apt metaphor would be raisins to food - And I am all in favor of distributing food to the hungry, as should be any decent human)
"Actual equality is hard, it takes time and it takes opportunity and it takes a lot of drive and determination. Taking a shortcut just undervalues its worth."
What the fucking hell, you shouldn’t have to fucking earn equality. That is the whole point is that it should just be innate. Did white people “earn” their place then? OR DID THEY MAYBE TAKE A SHORTCUT ON THE BODIES OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.
And the real difference here is that making modern adaptation of old stories more diverse costs white people nothing. It doesn’t hurt them at all. It honestly would serve white people (including myself) to see more POC in the roles they have grown up loving. It’s a service to their intelligence, empathy, and humanity.
Everyone benefits from a more equal world.
"Make new characters. Make new versions of interpretable characters. Make new stories." This was literally what the post was calling for? New characters, new stories, and new POC versions of old ones? Did you think I was asking us to burn down the MPAA Archive or something? What made you feel so threatened by the incredibly adorable raisin metaphor for equal representation? You should really look into what makes you see such threatening things in an innocuous post, because it’s probably a fear of actual equality.
when guys post shit like this
but when a girl actually knows how to play video games, they harass her online, question her skills and knowledge, make a point to humiliate her whenever she fails to meet their standards, and do everything in their power to push her away from the gaming community
august 27th, better known as, that time nicole wrote and recorded angry slam poetry about biphobia
My awesome friend Nicole, ladies and gents.Played 29 times.
asking for straight pride is like asking for able bodied parking spaces
thats a really good comparison because there are about seventy able bodied parking spaces to one disabled and able bodied people still insist on using the ones that arent theirs
this is seriously a great post
2 Dudes vs 1 Lady
so, i sort of sympathize with guys (especially tall guys) who need to sit in cramped spaces like an airplane row or bus/train seat. sometimes their legs are so long that it’s physically impossible not to spread them. but… this? come on.
Don’t sympathize with even the tall ones. My knees hit the back of the seat in front of me on every bus and I never even THINK to take someone else’s space because its fucking rude. This is 100% a male entitlement thing.
gross and awful and rude
this happens to me ALL THE TIME like they just really don’t care whether they’re invading my space and sometimes the guys even do it to intentionally touch my legs with their legs without it looking like it’s intentional
Here’s a good way I use to judge how much public transit space I’m taking up: If you can’t hold up a bottle of water between your legs, you’re taking up too much space.
when i was 5 years old my best friend was a boy named kyle who didn’t know how to knock on doors so he made dinosaur noises outside my window to wake me up in the summer until i demonstrated how to ball his fists and slam them against my doors. we collected caterpillars in my trailer park and built them houses while we traded pokemon cards. he wasn’t the only one. there was ben, and mitch, and noah—but kyle’s the only one who hurt me, because when he tried to kiss me and i asked him why, he told me “because you’re a boy and i’m a girl, shouldn’t we like each other?”
i missed him so much and i wondered why he couldn’t just be my friend like he always was
This is way better than anything I’ve ever written, and a whole hell of a lot better than anything I’d written by age 17. Jesus.
This is great. Worth a read. Friendzoning is absolutely mainly something that comes from guys, but I feel like adding that I’ve probably lost equal number of girl friends in my life as guy friends, if not more, cuz they were like oh HEY you’re spending so much time with me, and like me a lot, obviously you want to date, let’s date, and I’m always like um no I just take my friendships really seriously, so let’s be friends, cool? And boom, things get stupid and angry and it sucks. It’s a thing that happens, a thing that people do, and it blows. I’ll never understand wanting to sacrifice a good friendship just because you want to date/marry/fuck the other person and they’re not into that. We all like people who don’t like us back, but I’ve never ~liked~ a person and eventually thought, well, you don’t like me back, so it’s not worth being around you anymore. I dunno. It just baffles me. And I hope we get to a point as a society where a girl isn’t automatically demonized for not wanting to date somebody who put ~effort~ into their /friendship./ Maybe if people (aka the media, it always starts with the media) were willing to acknowledge that friendships are valid and important relationships between adults, and not somehow “less” than romantic relationships (because fuck you, they aren’t), that would be a good start.
Rambling. Done now. Read the original post.
I hate when the media makes The Hunger Games look like a battle for love. Get your bullshit fantasies away. This is about murder, over powered government, and a girl trying to change the way things are. News flash not every girls fantasy is to find true love.
the irony here is that our media is doing exactly what the Capitol did in the books; downplaying the murder, focusing on the bullshit love story
HOLY FUCKING DAMN
"They had my past, but they don’t have my future." -Alex, survivor of sex trafficking. Alex speaks out about becoming a prostitute at the age of sixteen and how she lifted herself out.
FBI Assistant Director Ronald Hosko announced Monday that the FBI has rescued 105 child sex-trafficking victims. The rescues were the product of Operation Cross Country, a three-day nationwide initiative to aid victims of underage prostitution.
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